The Brief Version
UnitedPeople would halt the continuing dumping of the drug Fluoride into Ireland’s water system. For a start, no express permission has been given by 99.9% of people for the government to simply do so.
Consecutive governments in doing it – now a private company – are open to question possible about they conflicting with parts of Irish law as they continue to do it. It is also possible, not only is the drugging of people with Fluoride not necessary but the version of the drug the state is dosing people with, could be actually the wrong type also.
Ireland remains one of the very last few countries in Europe to continue drugging its people through a water system – with or without consent gained to do it.
Why is Fluoride added to the public water supply in Ireland?
The above is a health question that is asked on the website (LINK) of the private company, Irish Water, which was bullied or pressganaged on people.
This is their incredible not helpful reply:
The requirements for fluoridating public water supplies are set out in the Health (Fluoridation of Water Supplies) Act 1960 and the Fluoridation of Water Supplies Regulations 2007 [S.I. No 42 of 2007]. As the water service authority, Irish Water is working with the HSE to implement State policy on fluoridation.
They then tell you to visit: www.fluoridesandhealth.ie
Go to that location and you are met with the following:
The Minister for Health and Children, Micheál Martin TD established the Irish Expert Body on Fluorides and Health in April 2004. The Irish Expert Body on Fluorides and Health and its sub-committees have broad representation from areas such as dentistry, biochemistry, environmental health and public health medicine. The Expert Body also has a strong consumer input in terms of members of the public and representatives of consumer interests. The sub-committees of the Expert Body may also co-opt members as the need arises.
Dr Seamus O’Hickey was appointed Chairman of the Expert Body by the Minister, his appointment was announced in the Dáil on the 7th April 2004.
In other words, in answer to your health question question original posed, you have been given an answer of when, how, by whom, a history lesson and a dose of useless political information that tells you nothing about why exactly, governments are dumping a drug into you (all without your express permission).
Try to gain a short answer from anyone connected to doing it is like asking a politician to tell you the specific colour of a wall in your house – but they instead, go on about the contents of the room – and who put them there!
Instead of replying with something like “We are drugging you because we think it’s better for your health and specific, the reasons are…” – you have gained instead another dose of something – a dollop of ‘passing the buck’ and useless political garbage!
Conflicting experts say there is no genuine research studies which back the tooth decay prevention claim (which other governments once stated before they stopped drugging their people), at all, and to make matters worse the studies that do exist on fluoridation have shown the practice to cause more harm to human health than good. A 2014 study by Grandjean and Landrigen care of the world high renowned “Lancet” (LINK) even now lists fluoride as a developmental neurotoxin. What is that? Something that creates a further negative problem…
Follow the link just above and you are given the following – we have bolded the important parts:
Neurodevelopmental disabilities, including autism, attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, dyslexia, and other cognitive impairments, affect millions of children worldwide, and some diagnoses seem to be increasing in frequency. Industrial chemicals that injure the developing brain are among the known causes for this rise in prevalence. In 2006, we did a systematic review and identified five industrial chemicals as developmental neurotoxicants: lead, methylmercury, polychlorinated biphenyls, arsenic, and toluene. Since 2006, epidemiological studies have documented six additional developmental neurotoxicants—
manganese, fluoride, chlorpyrifos, dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane, tetrachloroethylene, and the polybrominated diphenyl ethers. We postulate that even more neurotoxicants remain undiscovered. To control the pandemic of developmental neurotoxicity, we propose a global prevention strategy. Untested chemicals should not be presumed to be safe to brain development, and chemicals in existing use and all new chemicals must therefore be tested for developmental neurotoxicity. To coordinate these efforts and to accelerate translation of science into prevention, we propose the urgent formation of a new international clearinghouse.
(Detailed page) Disorders of neurobehavioural development affect 10–15% of all births,1 and prevalence rates of autism spectrum disorder and attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder seem to be increasing worldwide. Subclinical decrements in brain function are even more common than these neurobehavioural developmental disorders. All these disabilities can have severe consequences — they diminish quality of life, reduce academic achievement, and disturb behaviour, with profound consequences for the welfare and productivity of entire societies.
This is the world recognised, medical publication “Lancet” speaking. It is not some half-baked, internet conspiracy, nut-job page. It is recognised professional people in a world professional, highly regarded forum that is considered a basic and detailed, accurate reference authority concerning health matters.
In short: Parts of the modern, more educated world have kopped on, realised the harm a toxic drug is making to people including children – and subsequently have completely halted dumping the toxic drug into their national water supply.
Ireland still continues doing it – and at great financial expense as an extra ‘kicker’.
Extra ‘Bonus’ Point.
We could go on further and we do below in the detailed version of this page but for those willing to read this brief version, there is this:
7. I already use toothpaste with fluoride added – why do I need fluoride in the water as well?
Ireland is amongst the worst countries in Europe for high frequency consumption of sweets and confectionery by children and adolescents, therefore the use of fluoridated toothpastes alone is insufficient to prevent tooth decay.
…So instead of going after the companies putting the toxic drug into children’s sweets and confectionery – holding them to better account (we can’t be affecting their financial profits?), the state instead also uses this reason to dump a listed toxic drug with its medical negative affects, into an entire nation of people.
To Be Clear.
- UnitedPeople would stop the toxic drugging of a nation of people.
- We consider it extremely highly questionable in this present era.
- Citizens rights, their express permission not sought, have been abused.
- Irish Water, a CRO registered private company, would be held to account for their non-permission drugging.
- Any companies still using harmful drugs in their products would be more accountable.
END OF BRIEF VERSION
Fluoride is a drug. No if’s – no buts. It’s a drug.
Many people were reared, brought up and educated that fluoride in our water would protect our teeth from tooth decay. It would keep teeth and bones strong. Its turns out we were not only kept in the dark but actually in cases, bluntly lied to. What we were NOT told is that consuming fluoridated water can be problematic. It has an eventual wallop on a nation’s health including bones and teeth. In actual fact, doing us more harm than good.
Fluoridation of water started in the 1920’s, while the manufacture of aluminium was growing. The production of the metal created toxic waste that had to be disposed of at a substantial cost. The producers hence had to find innovative ways of cutting their costs, namely by getting others to buy their waste. So they came up with an idea…
The USA media bright sparks started marketing their fluoride waste as insecticides and rat poisons. Then they found a larger market for their chemical waste. They did this by convincing people that by adding fluoride to water, helps prevent cavities. They dug up enough respectable doctors (who often by no coincidence earned money from the companies one way or another) to say that this was the case. As mass media grew in ability the advertising techniques they used and repeated constantly, were so persuasive that populations by the bucket load were bought over completely – even though the claims of fluoridation benefits were supported by little or no actual evidence at times.
From 1952 onwards the polished PR spinning which espoused fluoridation through via our Public Health departments and various dental organizations is now considered a complete inaccurate joke instead of the objective scientific experiment which investigation of fluoridation should properly have been. It’s apparently continued in that vein right up to present time with some governments. Meanwhile the catalogue list of detrimental effects on the human body continued to be added to by the genuine non-lobbied, non-influenced, world scientific community.
Quote from www.tuberose.com/thyroid.html – Just one site of many confirming same thing the world over!
Up until the 1950s, European doctors used fluoride to reduce the activity of the thyroid gland for people suffering from overactive thyroid (hyperthyroidism). The daily dose of fluoride which people are now receiving in fluoridated communities (1.6 to 6.6 mg/day) actually exceeds the dose of fluoride found to depress the thyroid gland (2.3 to 4.5 mg/day). Hypothyroidism is currently one of the most common medical problems in the U.S. Synthroid, the drug doctors prescribe to treat hypothyroidism, was the fourth most prescribed drug in the U.S. in 2000. Symptoms of hypothyroidism include depression, fatigue, weight gain, muscle and joint pains, increased cholesterol levels and heart disease.
From a recent University of York report, considered the “final word on fluoridation,” it was shown that symptoms described in the literature on fluoride’s adverse health effects are identical to those observed in thyroid dysfunction, and the condition known as dental fluorosis is a direct result of fluoride-induced iodine deficiency during the time of enamel formation. It showed an increase in thyroid cancers in the fluoridated areas when compared to non-fluoridated areas.
In China, where entire villages are being relocated due to fluoride contamination, fluoride is being openly acknowledged as the cause of thyroid cancer, Kaschin-Beck disease and iodine deficiency. It has been established since the 1930s that the thyroid hormones control tooth eruption. Fluoridation delays the eruption of teeth because of its hypothyroid effect. Dental fluorosis is a sign of thyroid dysfunction. Any anti-thyroid substance administered during the time of enamel formation will produce the effects seen in dental fluorosis.
Fluorides actually cause cavities. There are countless papers–some of them found in the York Report–clearly state that the dental defects seen in fluorosis predispose to caries. Hyperthyroidism, caused after iodine was added to public water supplies in the early 1920s, led to the use of fluorides as anti-thyroid medication. Fluorides are the worst endocrine disruptor imaginable.
Fluorine, being a halogen, and chemically related to iodine but very much more active, displaces iodine, so the uptake of iodine is compromised by the replacement of the iodine by fluorine. To condemn an entire population, already having marginal levels of iodine, to inevitable progressive failure of their thyroid system by fluoridating the water, borders on criminal lunacy. Out of the over 150 symptoms and associations of hypothyroidism, almost all are also symptoms of fluoride poisoning.
The fact is that human bodies DO need fluoride – but certainly NOT the type used in human organised fluoridated waters. In nature, fluoride occurs in the form of calcium fluoride. It is found in soil, plants and natural water bodies (eg. rivers and sea), and this beneficial to our bones and teeth.
…However, very different forms of fluoride are usually used in fluoridated water (e.g. fluorosilicic acid, sodium fluoride, sodium fluorosilicate). These fluorides usually bind to proteins in our body and are very poorly absorbed. In fact too much fluoride can kill you.
The human body only requires a few milligrams of fluoride daily. In fact, fluoride at concentrations of 4 ppm is considered unsafe and fluoride overdose can kill. This is why toothpastes are often accompanied by strong warnings that they should be kept away from young children. The warnings are there for very good reason and no manufacturing company that wants to successfully sell its products wants to warn people what they are making, could actually be harmful – unless they really have to and forced by law! A point to note…
The amount that is added to a nation’s water supply could be problematic through its concentration for those who have smaller body size (e.g. young children), as well as for those who are exposed to other sources of fluoride, such as seafood, grape juice, beer and canned beverages, dental products (e.g. toothpastes, sealants), medications (e.g. some antidepressants, antibiotics and asthmatic drugs), some vitamin supplements, some bottled water, non-stick aluminium cookware and tobacco smoke.
At 1mg/L, fluoride in water can actually cause dental fluorosis – a process where the fluoride weakens and damages your tooth enamel. The situation is especially problematic when it comes to young children, since they have smaller body mass for the same concentration of the chemical added in the water supplies.
The fluoride in your water can suppress your thyroid gland and bring you hypothyroidism, such that you may experience lowered energy levels, suppressed immunity, reduced sex drive & unexplained weight gains.
Fluoride can also increase the accumulation of metals in your body, and metal toxicity has been linked to ailments like Alzheimer’s disease and autism. Fluoride accumulation in the pineal gland also affects your body’s production of melatonin, which is involved in regulating your sleep-wake cycle, as well as the onset of puberty in your children.
A 2005 study by the Harvard School of Dental Health found that fluoride in water increased the risk of bone cancer in young boys. It seems that fluoride damages the enzymes involved in DNA repair, which are essential in the prevention of cancer.
All the above and more indicates like a lighthouse lit up on a clear night, that Fluoride, the wrong type, the wrong concentrations and those taking it, should run from the stuff at times – not walk!
Party Politics And Reason
The Irish government up to the present day has been drugging the Irish people against their will. Just as the fact that Fluoride is a drug, is also the fact that at no point was the people of Ireland asked could they be mass drugged – at any stage. The government itself for reasons best known to itself continues to drug the processed water of Ireland even now, knowing the harmful effects of what they are doing. How crazy is this!
(To do something knowing its actually harmful against another person in fact something that could land any one person doing it, in trouble with the courts of Ireland! A person could be easily charged if a victim wished to peruse a case against those doing it. Especially when the person doing it should know better and knows of the weight of evidence to easily show what they are doing is harmful.)
The Fine Gael and Labour Party only now are even beginning to listen to those that are long opposing the mass drugging of nation. There are still fools in the Fine Gael party though who still persist in advocating that it should be kept in the water. This is even after year 2001 when Fine Gael had pledged to end the practice of adding fluoride to all drinking water because that they even put it then “serious health concerns”.
They couldn’t have been more clearer prior to the later general election when Fianna Fail got a massive kick out of government, Fine Gael stated on media record that if elected, they would order every health board to investigate existing levels of fluoride in groundwater supplies! They can’t even deny that they didn’t know about the dangers either as they themselves also said to the public in 2001 that there were claims of allergic responses to fluoridated water including skin irritations, mouth ulcers, headaches, stomach upset and it could also cause irritable bowel syndrome.
Even their then political opposition Green Party MEP Patricia McKenna educated them, hit out at at the time what she claimed was “the forced administration of regular doses of fluoride, a toxic mixture, which has been shown to have many adverse health effects. Between this and other people speaking across the world on the mass drugging, Fine Gael were well educated in 2001 to the very real risks of Fluoride. They still allowed the continued practise however once they too got into power along with the Labour Party. Their sudden mass memory loss of Patricia McKenna stating that “The doses of fluoride our body accumulates increase the risks of bone fractures, osteoporosis, bone cancer, and genetic damage.” must have been substantial!
Less than 2pc of Europe’s population now have fluoridated water and a number of countries have completely rejected, discontinued or banned the practice. Some including the Dutch also introduced constitutional amendment’s so that it could never be reintroduced. In the North of Ireland (not too far away from Dublin that it couldn’t be missed in news) 25 of 26 local authorities ceased the controversial addition to supplies.
It’s also fact that the continued drugging of a nation against their will contravenes the EU Convention on Human Rights and those in power allowing it to happen are going against this very charter which their nation has signed up to. Ireland’s illegal mandatory public water fluoridation policy constitutes the involuntary and indiscriminate medication of the entire Irish population. The European Communities Act of 1972 effectively ensures EU law (human rights or commercial), has enforceable jurisdiction over Ireland’s Constitution, Ireland’s Statute Book (Statutory Instruments) and other Irish domestic law.
The US Department of Health, as do others in other counties, has stated there is zero benefit by ingestion of fluoride. Fine Gael and Labour could if they wanted to, order the stoppage of Ireland being illegally drugged against their will within 24 hours if they wished – but so far they don’t – why?
In the fact of so much continued law breaking at national and international level – why the continued drugging? What reason would anyone have to drug people with Fluoride? Besides the now far, far known bad side-effects of the drug, there is at least one additional side-effect that political parties would tolerate (even like?) which would suit them! One side-effect of the drug is crowd or population control. This is no longer the realms of conspiracy theory as just a government or its supporters would have you think – but very researched and documented fact as the effects in the ingestion of the drug.
The fact is that repeated doses of even infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual’s power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotising a certain area of the brain, thus making them submissive to the demands and persuasive power of those who wish to govern. In essence, a medical light lobotomy.
The real reason for some governments behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children’s teeth – the real evidence is far too much in the opposite direction as to keep teeth healthy. Also note that If it were the real reason, there exists many other ways in which it could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation for some heads of power and groups is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty. As Robert Carlton, Ph.D, former EPA scientist, 1992 stated “Fluoridation is the greatest case of scientific fraud of this century.”
Quote from Delong,G.R.,Autism, amnesia, hippocampus and learning,Neuroscientific
and Behavioral Review, 16:653-70, 1992.
“The hyperactivity and cognitive deficits are generally linked with hippocampal damage, and in fact, the hippocampus us considered to be the central processor which integrates inputs from the environment, memory, and motivational stimuli to process behavioural decisions and modify memory.
“Hippocampal selectivity was disrupted when adult females were exposed for 6 weeks to 100 ppm fluoride (toothpaste is ten times stronger); hippocampal fluoride levels increased and behaviour was affected. Overall, the behavioural changes from fluoride exposure are consistent with interrupted hippocampal development….this is the first laboratory study to demonstrate that central nervous system functional output is vulnerable to fluoride, and that the effects on behaviour depend on age at exposure and that fluoride accumulates in brain tissues.”
The evidence through many, many experiments legally (and illegally) carried out, through scientific study and exchanging of data, is that population control is possible through the use of the drug. Of course no political party in their right minds is ever going to admit to dosing a nation or section of a community for these reasons – you would win a state lottery quicker – but the fact is that the drug fluoride is conveniently useful to those that wish a people/group to be more submissive and accepting.
Now if a government made up of political parties (that switch around like players playing musical chairs?) that is up to its own nepotistic, cronyistic, sly, manipulative antics, wishes to see what they want come to pass… then the induction of a drug which has by cheer coincidence an effect that would be to their benefit (pacifism, acceptance and submission), might be considered a ‘plus’ for them. Not that they will every admit it…
…And if it were eventually exposed what exactly the drug is doing, it could equally be to their advantage to drag out as long as possible (with a myriad of excuses to explain delays) the withdrawal of the drug from the mass dosing going on.
In other words, the longer the drug is still being dumped on the people, the more they could get away with quietly, before they reluctantly in the face of overwhelming medical evidence, have to submit themselves to the will of the people, legal law and then do what should – could – be done overnight! That being the cancelling of fluoride into our nation’s water and thus people.
Why The Delay?
Fianna Fail (for decades in the past), Fine Gael and Labour (now) are still drugging the nation, against scientific well known, decades of far proven common sense. They are dragging their heels still. They are creating (costly) committees with papers flying back and forth; to discuss that which has been already done many, many times over in many, many countries. We all know the result already that they will come to. Fluoride being put into the nations water system being costly, pointless and actually harmful. Your average citizen now might be able to tell you this – but still the delays go on from government… We should really be asking “Why?”
…Long enough to get the Irish Water farce bullied through?
The Legal Implications Now
The government won’t admit it nor will Irish Water but they are afraid. They are in fact (excuse the language) “Crapping themselves” in case a legal case is taken against them individually, as a government, as a party or against the Irish Water company itself (and individuals involved).
The government is already (like previous ones) braking Human Rights laws with the illegal non-permission gained of mass drugging. The company “Irish Water” when it starts to try legally charge for water use and wastage, will by action be admitting itself to be the sole provider of water to the people and thus the drug thereby contained within it. Through transference, Irish Water will be legally accountable for the drugging against their will, of a nation.
They can be sued for poisoning a nation’s people. It’s sad in fact that a legal case hasn’t actually been made already against the Irish government that to date, continues this practise – but you can be damn sure that in quiet corners of the offices of power in Dublin, they are very thankful for this. What might be saving their backsides up to now is a case from the year 1965. Then through the law and the “Right to Body Integrity” a case was taken against the state (Ryan v Attorney General) that on evidence presented AT THE TIME fluoridation of a water supply was not an interference with that right. The state however acknowledge a person’s “Right to Body Integrity” and even later (The State (Richardson) v Governor of Mountjoy Prison 1980) further extended that right to include the right of those in custody, not to have their health endangered.
Given the far more medical advances the world over that has been made, the much further research that has been done which can now without question, legally challenge the alone outcome of Ryan v Attorney General, there is no long doubt that it could be overturned easily. Until this is done so however – or another new modern day case taken creates precedent, those poisoning the Irish water systems of Ireland do so with a degree of comfort!
Just as drugging one person against their will, is a legal assault* (to say the least), numbers don’t change the law. Be it one person or a population of 4.8 million, the law is still the same and can be applied. Individuals can be arrested and charged. Individuals can be found guilty, fined and/or sent for imprisonment – be it government official or non-government official, company man or director!
Another last thing any or all the above would like the population to be aware of, is just this fact. They can all be legally held to question for their in-action, own pacifism or outright actions in regard to drugging one or many against their will!
You will not see the government advising the population of their human rights in this regard – even though the drugging is going on even as you read this document. You will not see mainstream political parties informing their population (they say they wish to work for!) that they should stand up and have the possible guilty, held to account! No, that would mean eventually their own people, party and friends find themselves in very hot legal water – fast! So the action of the period is one of silence in this matter also.
The fact that a person is being drugged against their outright permission means that, for that one individual, the possible penalties against their assaulter would be huge and possibly also run into millions of Euro in fines too.
Add into account even one twenty of a population of 4.8 million suddenly taking their own legal cases against a government and Irish Water as a company, both could – would collapse within a possible month or even week. It’s no wonder then that “the silence is deafening” from government circles and Irish Water to boot, in regard to the mass drugging and its further legal implications!
Because the government and Irish Water do not wish to be in legal trouble and at least, put out of eventual massive billion Euro business, they will see to it that the drug Fluoride will be taken out of the Irish water system. This is a safe bet. It’s not a case of “If?” but “when?”
They will make this happen in time and PR spin it that they are just doing so as (a) it’s the will of the people (b) it’s very much medically wrong given proven scientific facts long established (but they will say their own people have found this – at additional cost of course) or (c) its costly and ineffective to continue the process.
They would be right with some of the above. There will be no mentioning whatsoever though that they would move to stop the mass drugging because of the legal implications. No, they can’t be mentioning that element. There is nothing good in PR to be gained for them but just a nightmare of ground-breaking proportions created as suddenly they might unwittingly have educated an entire population to a possibility they could further carry out!
Going through the motions, mainstream political parties will see that Fluoride as a drug in our water will cease to be placed in it by invented automatic process. They will PR spin it to their best advantage (vote) at a time which will be most effective (just before an election?). As long as the current public pressure is maintained on political representatives, the inevitable will surely happen.
…It will just happen at a point in time of their choosing and to their best possible advantage.
* Legal Note:
Assault according to the Non-Fatal Offenses Against the Person Act 1997 is when a person commits an assault who, without lawful excuse, intentionally and recklessly, directly or indirectly applies force to, or causes an impact on the body of another, or causes another to believe on reasonable grounds that he or she is likely immediately to be subjected to any such force or impact, without the consent of the other.
Force includes the application of heat, light, electric current, noise or any other form of energy and the application of matter, solid, liquid or gaseous form.
The Non-Fatal Offences Against the Person Act 1997 creates two serious assault offences.
1. A person who intentionally or recklessly causes serious harm to another, which means injury which creates a substantial risk of death, or causes serious disfigurement, or substantial loss of impairment of the mobility of the body as a whole or of the function of any particular body member or organ, commits an offence.
2. A person who assaults another, causing them harm, which includes harm to body or mind and pain and unconsciousness, is guilty of an offence.
Given the existence of no permissions of a population to mass drugging, there is also other charges that could be levied against those carrying out such actions. These include reckless endangerment and second degree possible charges besides others. All applicable under the nature of trespass and trespass against the person in tortious liability. A person’s right just has to be infringed and legal action is actionable per se.