Irish Neutrality - A Now Myth.
If there is any assurance on Ireland once famed neutrality, is now just PR by agenda based politicians, the loss of Ireland's once existing status, can be confirmed just by looking at a EU statement submission recently to it. The submission read "Ireland supports the development of a strong and competitive defence, technological and industrial base, EDTIB (The European Defence Technology & Industrial Base)."
What's all the above? Its only Ireland now open supporting the EU version of the American arms business. With further news of the new EU army formation coming soon after the Brexit referendum (deliberate held back till it over), any deluded elected spouting that Ireland is still a European neutral country in the world, is one politician that needs their glasses cleaned or blinkers removed! Add to the political pot that Ireland is reported, upping its military spending, Irish neutrality will only more exist in the future within history books if our current elected continue on their already quiet path.
...Again, the public is not supposed to know all the above or join the dots to what it all means.
Ireland And Its Military Position In The EU?
Now that the EU is progressing to with another extra army structure in the world, it means another entrant into the arms race. With people in it that are not citizen democratic elected – thus less accountable as the public cannot un-elect them for any mistakes or bad decisions – they have more of a carte-blanche to do as they see fit, spend as they see it (with public money) and carry on regardless? Now there’s a few points to ponder over?
Ireland being part of the EU, any final vestiges of a once neutral Ireland status, can be thrown out any window of an EU office? Irelands neutrality has been slowly, quietly chipped away? Only fools would espouse that Ireland is still as neutral as the day the state was created?
The above questions arise as its further looked at the direction Ireland is heading to?
Ireland, care of the EU, is being told to spend more of its money buying military equipment including seafaring articles of war. All this while EU chiefs deliberately delayed revealing further details about proposals for a new £1trillion budget, for the next seven years to the army that Juncker wanted. Budget plans were put off till autumn 2016 so not to fuel British Eurosceptic arguments their referendum. An attempt at censorship that failed as (a) news got out anyway and (b) the Brexit side won by a two million vote surplus.
Only EU diplomats were quietly shown the EU army plans. The plans are said to include proposals for new European military structures, including a headquarters. The plans for the army could reach further back than anything Juncker desired. One of CIA’s most senior analysts, Michael Scheuer is on past record stating;
“EU leaders suffer from a "hubristic desire" to rival US power.”
On June 12th, 2016 one Dutch brigade, the 11th Airmobile, official joined the German army. The Dutch army is made up of three brigades, plus support staff and Special Forces so they are relinquishing control of one third approximately of their military services to another state.
Die Welt’s political editor Thorsten Jungholt wrote;
“Never before has a state renounced this elementary and integral part of its sovereignty,”
People have asked “What about NATO?” NATO is a relic for the Cold War era. It was a treaty organised so that countries could call on others to quickly later, after some incident to justify coming together, then combine their forces on a European battlefield. NATO is now looked at by many as out of date and might not be quick enough to come to a ‘rescue’. The fact that NATO is three quarters funded by the United States of America is also a factor.
The new EU army will be a pre-existing force, already operating before any war-like incident. One already combined and ready to go. The title of the Die Welt June article could say a lot beyond its seven words; “Germany is driving the European Army Project”. With Juncker pushing it massively forward since he came to EU office, there’s apparently no stopping it now? It appears so. As regards the Dutch contribution, Germany is pursuing a second brigade from them alone. The German Army’s Chief of Staff, Lt. Gen. Bruno Kasdorf, wrote a letter outlining plans for future cooperation.
“The integration of the Dutch 43rd Mechanized Brigade into the [German] 1st Armored Division shall be encouraged.”
Kasdorf has added that Germany wants to employ the Dutch model in cooperation with other nations.
“The bilateral cooperation with Austria and Poland is currently gaining much momentum,”
Hans-Peter Bartels via being chairman of the German parliament’s defence committee, is on record to Die Welt saying;
“The hour has come, finally, for concrete steps towards a European Army,”
While other countries are joining up with Germany, sacrificing their military and elements of control over their own men and women, it’s vital to take note of one significant legal factor.
Germany’s constitution, and its subsequent interpretation by the Constitutional Court, ensures that the German parliament must remain in ultimate control of its own German Army. How this will further play out, affecting overall matters, remains to be seen! So far decision makers in the German defence ministry have given no indication that they would likewise, be willing to transfer over portions of the German Army to other nations. Once again Germany is on the road to being an even bigger major power in the world – all with the help of its neighbours!
As far back as 2004 concerns were expressed in UK media over the forthcoming plans for an EU army while stating in print that “US officials have worries about the EU force” (Article: Blair told plan for EU army may hit relations with US – The Scotsman, 11/011/04). It appears that the military direction of the EU has been a long time coming and an elite in the American intelligence community have known about such plans for a long time – far more than the public in Europe, that the army is supposed to be serving. Certainly if this is the case, it again shows a lack of transparency and honesty with the EU people for over ten years on this matter alone.
When it comes to the actual use of an EU army, would Ireland try and opt out? It remains to be seen. Currently the Irish army participates in other Europe military exercises besides working alongside other nations armies outside of Ireland. A surprising attempt to opt out from battles would come more of a shock to many other EU leaders, than only to be expected?
Should Ireland opt in or opt out of the new EU army, clarity might be need to be constitution permission refined due to one important factor (that could also affect the TTIP treaty too). The Irish Supreme Court previously was called upon to adjudicate on how the EU affects its Irish Constitution on several occasions. The result stemming from this was that, in 1987, a “Crotty Case” concluding had a ruling that stated major EU treaties required a referendum in Ireland.
If Ireland is to opt in militarily, would this require a change to the Irish constitution to allow this to be legal or would any quiet sections in EU treaties already signed, be overruling of the present Irish constitution, regarding any use of Irish military personnel and civilian people?
Questions… Questions… So far still, very few answers and details coming from Dail elected.
Ireland And NATO.
Most Irish citizens either don’t know it or it doesn't enter into their lives any time of any year, but Ireland is signed up to a NATO/Partnership For Peace Agreement (PfP). In PR terms this sounds nice and cosy. In real terms it means that Ireland is also willing to go to war and fight for “peace”. Somewhere in the last sentence there is a touch of irony? Again, Irelands actual supposed neutrality again becomes exposed as just a mere myth that’s just fed to the masses.
Ireland signed up to this agreement alone involves being in joint venture to what’s known as Interoperability. This mouthful of a word is very important to NATO and it’s a task they take very serious and expect Ireland to play its part fully in.
NATO describes Interoperability as:
“The ability for allies to act together coherently, effectively and efficiently to achieve tactical, operational and strategic objectives.”
In other words, at times of war (involving also possible foreign invasions etc), individual nations fight for another country as best each can, frontline or providing background support.
In 2015 Fine Gael ex-minister for defence, Simon Coveney, produced a White paper on the matter of interoperability. It stated that “Ireland will continue to engage proactively with the UN, the EU, the OSCE (Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe) and NATO/PfP and other states”. A section in the White paper with the subtitle “Interoperability” also mentions:
”NATO has become the standard-setting organisation for modern military forces, in effect the de facto ‘I.S.O.’ 28 of the military world …the unique NATO process of achieving full interoperability has been made available through PfP to partner countries such as Ireland.”
Such statements clearly show the real direction that Ireland is being further took – all done through the sneakiness of political parties in government who are not even bothering to tell its nations citizens what elected are doing in their name, what actions and consequences they are signing their nation up to or even explaining why! The same quiet, sly signing up applies to also military agreement’s as under the termed “Common Security and Defence Policy” – in other words, the PR euphemism used for describing the formation of the newer EU army.
Buried deep in government documents, away from public prying eyes – heaven forbid the citizens might find out these things – is the Departments of Defence and Defence Forces Strategy 2015-17. Amid many things detailed, comes the following:
“Ireland’s participation in the EU’s Common Security and Defence Policy (CSDP) and EU operations, in EU Battlegroups and in NATO/PfP and the partnership goal process has supported the development of increased interoperability with other likeminded and EU member states”
Amid the waffle above, note the use of the word “Battlegroups” in conjunction with “Interoperability” and the new EU army (CSDP) to boot! Does anyone seriously think Ireland is a neutral country still? Would they be that deluded as Fine Gael, Fianna Fail and Labour, etc. continues to involve supposed ‘neutral’ Ireland in all the above and more? Seriously?
Of course the average citizens are not told all of this. In fact, they are told very little of it, at all. There might be the once in a ‘blue moon’ mention of abbreviations and RTE quoting “European cooperation” on security matters – but the information meat on the activity bones are left from the eyes and ears of a nation of people. Heaven forbid they might object after they kop on what’s really further going on and how deep is their nation involved via their elected?
The Departments of Defence and Defence Forces Strategy 2015-17 says regarding Ireland and “key strategies”:
“…Continue our positive engagement with NATO/PfP …in order to enhance Defence Forces interoperability in multi-national operations and contribute to the development of military capabilities in accordance with international standards”.
Amazingly, older established parties of Ireland still PR spin about Ireland's neutrality still supposedly alive, it being a core value of Irish foreign policy!
There was a NATO/PfP meeting on July 8th/9th, 2016 in Warsaw, Poland which was attended by Fine Gaels Paul Kehoe. By coincidence (or not?) it was at the same place and time as a NATO summit was also occurring. Details of what the further outcome for Ireland from either has not been disclosed to the public and little or no details has even been passed onto the Dail!
The Irish citizens are once again left in the dark. The public however is once again expected to tax cough up for all this military cooperation and arms spending. They are just not being told why, where and how often where part of their ‘neutral’ money goes!
UnitedPeople has reported previously in good detail - names, dates, places, etc - how its neutrality once imagined as real, has been further uncovered as a political false farce sold to a nation of people. On the UnitedPeople(.ie) website under an exclusive revealing side section entitled "EU Army & Ireland" (link below), many details can be found how Fine Gael - but not just them alone - have given our nations 'independent' status away yet again. Not only have they done this in conjunction with others of Ireland's political parties, they have ultra-quiet sneaked in more state financial costing bills to cover for doing it. They do this without telling one voter in the country that they are doing it!
Democratic? Who are we kidding!
Ireland's once imagined neutrality has been weakened by consecutive give-away clauses in EU treaties bullied upon Irish citizens till EU semi-dictators got their way. The Defence Forces association with European increasing militarisation rolls onward, again quietly - and again without any discussion whatsoever in the Dail or vote taken to make it all even public supported!
Democratic? Who are we kidding!
Under previous Fine Gael and Labour government - now under Fine Gael, Endapendents and Fianna Fail propping them up, the undemocratic farce continues. If there was any public consultation (there wasn't any allowed) or if there was any Dail debate (there wasn't any allowed) on the issue - even if there was any public announcements (there wasn't any allowed) on the government 2015 "White Paper" on Defence, it might have been exposed that the FG government had further plans to integrate our defence strategy with NATO and now, the new EU army plans. All this however has been kept ultra-hushed up! The public is not supposed to know. UnitedPeople however has done its research and previously public exposed many facts Fine Gael and Co would rather keep hidden from Ireland voters.
The 2015 "White Paper" on Defence (link below) exposes an increased cooperation between NATO (75% backed by US money), the EU Common Security and Defence Policy (CSDP) - along with harmonisation with Defence Forces equipment that NATO and an EU army will use. Yes, Ireland is to use the exact same military equipment through joint planning already under way.
Does anyone seriously think Ireland is now or ever was, a neutral country? If so, it's time to wake up from that once nice dream?
The increased military spending that Ireland is going to costly burn through to gain harmonisation, will have the European Defence Agency at the helm to do the central buying. Because of the latest upped military spending for the coming EU army, Ireland by its participation, has actually become a bigger player in the world arms business, even more than previously!
Page 116 of the 2015 "White Paper" on Defence states the Government are putting in place new defence review arrangements to elevate discussion and debate in a way which ensures that, notwithstanding other pressing demands for resourcing, investment in defence is given the appropriate consideration which its place in public policy (and in addressing relevant risks) demands."
NOW RE-READ THE ABOVE... Concentrate on "..arrangements to elevate discussion..."
What discussion? Was there ANY open public or elected debate before FG and Co signed the state away already? When? With who? The citizens? No! The others elected in the Dail? No! The Seanad? No! TV debate? No! Radio debate? No! WHAT DISCUSSIONS? Like previous - you won't be getting any citizen vote on the matter either. Fine Gael and Co are just churning ahead regardless of whatever the hell you think!
Democratic? Who are we kidding!
Who are Fine Gael kidding here? Obviously the public? It's looking again that way!
RTÉ and others via Section 31 of the Broadcasting Act, has in fact created a veil of state secrecy over the whole issue. What also has been quietly buried conveniently by that act is the more revealing financial details like Ireland defence budget has been from approx €1,000,000,000 (that's BILLION) to nearly €2,000,000,000 in the last eight years alone - and this is before Ireland further enters into the word arms race care of the European Defence Agency!
Fine Gael (and by extension, those that stand by them or prop them up) and its plans to further shove Ireland into steps for greater military expansion and the arms business, is quite simply further alarming. We say "further" as the items we have previously revealed are already shocking!
There is now further five year period of military expansion, involving greater spending to come. As EU heads churn forward with greater costly plans - all affecting Ireland's neutrality (who are we kidding here?), it will all happen without public discussion, again little or no Dail or Seanad discussion - and sure as hell, there will be no democratic vote allowed on the matter.
That's today's Ireland under Fine Gael and those that have stood by and prop them up! No wonder the citizens support them less?
* 2015 "White Paper" on Defence - Click HERE
NOTE: Credit goes big time to The Phoenix magazine (LINK) in Ireland who also alone, has been battling to highlight this ongoing issue.
The EU Army Issue (being large un-reported) Continues... (26th Sept' 2016)
Ursula von der Leyen, the German defence minister, will apparently tomorrow warn UK's Sir Michael Fallon, defence secretary, that he and the UK must back down on their threat to block proposals for EU military structures to rival NATO
Mr Fallon is on record as stating Britain would resist the military proposals that are backed and being massive pushed by France and Germany upon other states. Mr Fallon previously stated “any attempt to set up a rival to NATO . . . is not going to happen”.
EU leaders, excluding Britain - but INCLUDING IRELAND - earlier this month reiterated its agenda to include “common battle groups to carry out military intervention”, a “single operational headquarters” and EU-owned assets such as drones, military aircraft and naval vessels. All of this is further entering Ireland not only into an EU army by clever PR spinning word play in policy documents on record but is also allowing Ireland to more enter into a greater world arms race, as it too is amassing the same weapons as others involved in the new EU army.
Fine Gael and other parties in Ireland have played along in open agreement or complicity through non-protest and public silence, to see the state join this new EU army.
Fine Gael in particular are continuing the PR farce, espousing that Ireland remains officially neutral - all the while going along with every contingency of the EU army direction of combined forces, militarisation and same spending on weapons.
Just as farcical is the mass media silence of over the whole undemocratic, massively costly direction Ireland is further heading in. While other European media outlets are trying their best to highlight more of what's being quietly going on behind the backs of 500+ million European people, the vast majority of Ireland media has been total silent on the matter. Have they been silenced one way or other? They are not telling but the massive media blackout on the topic could be telling?
Along with UnitedPeople, one media outlet is also continuing to try get word to the Irish nation about what is going on. The Phoenix Magazine has been reporting on this growing issue also.
It's hoped the Phoenix manages to continue to do this before they too might be 'requested' into silence. Their continuing efforts are to be applauded.
The UnitedPeople website and its Facebook page already has posted previous detailed information surrounding this extremely serious matter to which no Ireland citizen has gained any vote on, at any stage!
UnitedPeople will continue to report on this matter as and when further updates are available - and before it too might be tried silenced!
Footnote: In 2014,, part of the Fine Gael government, Simon Coveney TD attended that years now infamous Bilderberg meeting. (news report HERE). The list of military top brass (see HERE) (including Breedlove, Philip M. Supreme Allied Commander Europe) also attending is an indication of what also was to be quiet discussed by an unelected group. Their possible agenda advanced at this secret, no minutes released, meeting still also remains classified.
UPDATE - 9th Oct 2016
EU Army Plans Further Progress.
VoteWatch Europe, a non-governmental organisation that monitors the votes of European politicians, has come out with their professional analysis and stated that Ireland is unlikely to be able to resist a renewed drive from Brussels for greater EU military co-operation.
Ireland currently has a massive national issue that is not being Dail, Senate or media discussed at all. RTE and other media favouring long established parties, is keeping the public uninformed as to what’s currently progressing. UnitedPeople however, is continuing to monitor the ongoing issue as can be found HERE in great detail.
Just last month, gone largely unreported in Ireland, Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European Commission, was applauded by MEPs when he called for the EU to:
“move towards common military assets”
In his latest speech in the European parliament on the matter, he again reiterated his ongoing desire for a new EU military headquarters.
Despite massive evidence to the contrary, Ireland’s Department of Foreign Affairs incredibly continues to state that there are:
“no plans for a European army”
They say this in spite of the overwhelming evidence of names, dates and places exposed by UnitedPeople and the Irish magazine, The Phoenix (LINK), which further exposes that they are (a) completely lying or (b) completely stupid.
European army battalions, have already been joining up to create the EU army and increased military spending plans that also includes an Irish military increased budget, is also under way as Ireland co-joins a new arms race. The uncovered evidence being kept from a majority of Ireland’s public, appears to bear this all out.
The UK Factor.
Doru Frantescu, director of VoteWatch Europe, and Eva Chitul, an adviser at the IDA Group (a Brussels government affairs consultancy) has gone on official record as stating:
“There has always been a push for the creation of the EU military headquarters but concrete steps have never been taken towards it due to opposition from the UK,”
Now that the UK is out of the EU organisation picture due to their wish to leave the European political monster, with them going along with their once powerful voting position, the EU army creation process could soon see a further official progressing vote, carried out. The UK exiting of the EU creates a “qualified majority”, that will allow Jean-Claude Juncker to see his long wish for a European Army, to become all too further real.
Hiding The Full Facts.
The Department of Foreign Affairs has gone on record as stating:
“Ireland’s long-standing policy of military neutrality, which has been pursued by successive governments, is characterised by non-participation in military alliances. The commitment to this policy was reconfirmed last year in the foreign policy review and in the white paper on defence.”
However, beyond the PR spinning of a government either in denial or trying again to ‘pull a fast one‘ on the few public aware of the matter, the European reality is that the EU Army is tank and troop marching ahead and through “Interoperability” (a political used phrase to avoid saying “joining up” – like “Rendition” is to “unwarranted kidnapping”), is part and parcel of the forthcoming new EU army.
Despite what the Department of Foreign Affairs says, the actual evidence of Ireland joining a new arms race (detailed previously by UnitedPeople) and agreeing to participate in joint militarisation operations, exposes again what governments can state in PR, is not necessarily the actual full truth! In fact, maybe the complete opposite?
…Meanwhile, a great bulk of Irish media continues its blackout on the whole ongoing matter. A nation of people are vast majority, being kept in the dark.
Update: 1st December 2017
What the Fine Gael government is also not telling you (they are not telling you a lot of things) is that for 2018, the party has budgeted €946,000,000 (Million) for new arms spending to that it can be part of the new EU army that it says “…it won’t be a part of and that Ireland is still neutral”.
Two years later, that arms spending will rise to €3,000,000,000 (Billion) by 2020.
The European Defence Agency who is buying all the weaponry for our soldiers – including many living on the breadline and social welfare assistance – is demanding that Ireland pay its contribution for a new arms race is has already embarked upon.
UnitedPeople has been reporting on this matter for some time how Ireland is already part of the new EU army – despite what Fine Gael and others are telling you when they say it isn’t!
Ireland is to be buried deep in the EU army under a nondescript title called Pesco (Permanent Structured Cooperation) agreement. Were you government informed or permitted a vote on this by the way?
Leo Varadkar, Simon Coveney, and even one Mr Kehoe along with TD’s such as Fergus O’Dowd and more, are not telling the people of Ireland any of this at national or local level.
“SHUSH… Mums the word.” You’re not supposed to know!
Article - The Irish Times: Click HERE